Below: Lauren with the inventor of the “cream”, Dr. Francoise Ferron, age 96 (now deceased).
Transcript
Marya: Welcome to the second part of this episode on non-hormonal birth control, the Wise Woman’s Choice. You can listen to Part 1 of this conversation with Lauren Love of Wise Woman’s Choice here. Yes, I am promoting a product here. It’s a product I believe in. It’s not a product that I’ve actually used yet since I’m not in a partnership at this exact moment, but I’ll certainly be trying it out as soon as I get back into a relationship.
So this is part two of this interview with Laura Love of Wise Woman’s Choice. Please listen to the first section of this. I broke it into two parts. I know my editing is a little awkward because I’m fairly new to podcasting, but in the first part of this conversation, Lauren talked about her experience with hormonal birth control, how bad it was for her body, and the whole story behind how she found out about this cream, which basically acts as a soap that immobilizes sperm, and how she came to rely on this as her preferred birth control method and then eventually ended up taking on the formulation for the inventor. And in Costa Rica selling this product, she actually sells it worldwide. But listen to the first part of this conversation to get more context of her journey to owning this company and the vision that she has for decentralized birth control and how important this is for us as women to have womb sovereignty.
Also listen to that episode for more context around why I personally am so excited about this. I think the reasons are pretty obvious. Most women are clued into and tuned into the problems that not only hormonal birth control but the copper IUD create in our systems in terms of mineral deficiencies, as well as a host of so-called side effects, which as we know side effects are not things that happen on the side, they’re systemic effects.
And the problem is a lot of women just don’t have a good alternative. So I’m super jazzed about this not only because it serves as a good alternative, but it is actually Lauren’s intention with this company to really again create a network of decentralized birth control so that the FDA cannot dismantle it. So she talks in the first part of this conversation about the challenges with the FDA and which is part of, you know, corporate controlling patriarchal medicine.
I know that hormonal birth control is considered to be one of the main achievements of Western medicine in terms of being able to liberate women’s sexuality. And actually, you know, I think as a culture we’re starting to reach a point where we’re really becoming honest with ourselves about the real costs that women bear and really acknowledging that we haven’t found better solutions because this is a profit-making endeavor on the part of the companies that create birth control. So while Lauren is also, you know, has a company that is for profit, she has a whole revolutionary scheme to basically not be the only producer of this, but to make it decentralized by way of teaching others how to also make this cream so that it can be made all over the world by citizen scientists and soap makers all over.
So listen for more context there. And in this continuation of the conversation, we continue the conversation about our corrupt medical system. And she gives a little bit of personal history. It turns out her great uncle was one of the fathers of naturopathy. So this is kind of like part of her family lineage, finding natural solutions for the general populace. And we get to hear as we continue this conversation a little bit more about the repercussions that he suffered.
If any of you have looked into the history of naturopathy and the way that homeopathic schools and naturopathic schools were bullied and attempted to be shut down with varying levels of success, we can see that this tradition of corporate medicine and the monopoly system as it pertains to our health has been going on for a very long time. So we kind of continue this conversation around the politics of birth control and the widespread implications of what it would really mean for men and women to have access to a truly non-toxic form of birth control, what the implications of that would be society wide and also in terms of emotional and spiritual development. I hope you enjoy this conversation.
Forgive the awkward, sudden beginning of this in the middle of the conversation we were having, and please listen to the end. And by all means, if you find this inspiring, check out Lauren’s website and spread the word about this. Enjoy the show.
Lauren: My great uncle was a natural healer and he was like basically the father of naturopathy in the States and his healing centers were burned down and he was killed in the hospital because they put sulfur in his burns. His name was Benedict Lust. And he had natural printing presses in New York city, had organic shops in New York city in the early 1900’s and was releasing books like the Herb Bible, and about juicing, and translated all these works from Germany about fasting.
Marya: I’m studying family constellations therapy right now. And also watching the show on Netflix called another self that’s all about family constellation. So it doesn’t surprise me that you’re the spirit of your revolutionary, you know, natural alternatives that you’re promoting is maybe part of a, uh, an energetic patterning and lineage holding in your family around, you know, natural solutions. That’s really cool.
Lauren: I really feel it. My aunt’s been down in Costa Rica for 30 years. And one day I prayed and I was like, Lord, I feel like I’m supposed to carry on my great uncle’s work, but I don’t know how. And the next day she contacted me and said, I have your uncle’s memoirs and a bunch of his books. Would you like them? Would you treasure them? So then I began studying this and it was really a foundation of my understanding of what’s going on.
He wrote and published a book about vaccines and how like that this is actually like a war strategy, like in 1928, I think. And you know, he got murdered a long time ago and basically they burned down his healing centers and he was rescuing people and manuscripts and he got severe burns and they took him to the hospital where they put sulfur in his burns, which can kill you. And it killed him. And we know that people disappear who have the answer to cure to cancer or so many other things.
And so we don’t want this. We want to be of service, but we want our family and our beautiful life. And we don’t want this solution to just be in our hands. We want to decentralize birth control completely and make it available worldwide. And so we are now opening up a program for people interested in making the cream. We’re seeking out artisanal soap makers, cosmetic formulators, people who have natural product businesses, or who are in service to the womb, like birth workers. And we are going to be gathering a group. And once we have the amount that we want for the group, we are going to be releasing this. And so these producers will become like franchises in their branch of the world, helping to promote nontoxic birth control. We will share with them all of my teachings that they can spread this far and wide in their communities as well and teach teachers and spread this revolution. And, and they’ll be producing the cream and we’ll become more like an official testing lab that each batch they’ll be sending to us to test thoroughly. And in this way, we’re decentralizing it because they can’t take out thousands of grassroots producers. It’s really about a grassroots movement through people to people, you know, telling the truth and sharing this incredible, this incredible resource that we have along with all the other resources. They’re, they’re carrying the, the use of plants and how to actually use these in an effective way. They’re carrying the mental and spiritual aspects that we should all be aware of.
And all this knowledge really is our birthright that we should have been taught when we were 11, but it’s been lost. So bringing this back on a global scale. So in some parts of the world, we’re looking to share it with bigger companies because we know we can’t handle giant markets where we don’t speak the language or the culture, but we’re looking to partner with different producers around the world to make it available everywhere. We already have it available in Africa and I’m so excited about that. It’s going to the world, Europe, UK, Mexico, Central America, North America. And this week I’m talking with people in Germany and Qatar that want to carry this and carry the knowledge.
And so this is really a movement and a big part of our heart. One of my dear friends here is Katia Nova and her movement is moving money through the hands of women. And this has been a huge inspiration to me when I think about business and what we’re actually doing in the world. And so with my business I work with affiliates everywhere in a really generous fashion because I’m inviting people to take this company as their own. It’s not my company. It’s a movement for women everywhere in service to women everywhere that this birth control nightmare would end once and for all. And that our daughters would walk in to a clearer field where they understand all these natural ways: this is how we take care of our fertility. And this is how we have a relationship with our fertility. And sexuality and moonblood and, and all the things, but we’re bringing back feminine wisdom.
And alongside that we’re sharing resources, not just Wise Women’s Choice. I’m resources out there for natural birth control and womb related things, you know? So that’s what we’re doing. And this training, this franchise opportunity is already open. People can contact us directly, but we’re launching the website and the offering this next month and the training we’re hoping will take place in the next few months. So that’s really exciting where we’re about to explode it. And it’s going to be such a beautiful global family of people working together with this heart and mission. So yeah, thank you for letting me share.
Marya: Sign me up and everyone listening, I’ll provide an affiliate link in the show notes and I’m going to be getting a shipment of the product soon here from Lauren. And I just love the scope of that vision. Because I feel like the feminine is kind of like this overflowing fountain of abundance and it’s the generative principle. And I love the way you’re talking about not only a decentralized birth control movement, but also spreading wealth to women. Just imagine how much our society would shift on so many levels if women had more financial abundance, felt in control of their fertility and also felt like managing fertility was something that men and women could do in partnership. And the way that men can join your movement as partners, just how that would shift the balance of the masculine feminine. There’s this Male Contraception Information Project. I followed them for a few years. I’ve kind of stopped recently, but they have a male form of birth control that have been developed that just aren’t making it out there. Cause there’s not huge demand, right? But the beauty of this is that it is neither a male or female form of birth control. It can be used by both, as either could apply it. One of their methods is called Risug and it’s basically an injection of a polymer in the vas deferens that basically causes the sperm to explode because of the electrical charge on their way out. But again, there’s not a huge demand.
Lauren: We want to let them do all this horrible stuff to us when we can use cream or oil or an herb or some Taoist wisdom.
Marya: What I love about your method is that it’s not male or female birth control. Sure, you apply it to the vagina, but a man could apply it – I think there could be more of a partnership way of going about it, right? So it would help balance the imbalance between the masculine feminine. And I do see corporate medicine and the medical mafia and this technocratic kind of top-down hierarchical profit-making structure that creates solutions by creating other problems and by suppression that that is so outmoded, but it’s so entrenched, but no one wants to participate in it. Even my coaching clients who have migraine, they’re holistically minded, but they’re still dependent on something they don’t believe in, you know, because they don’t know what the alternative is.
So if you’re creating not only an alternative, but you’re creating a movement that makes that alternative impossible to squash by this medical mafia, you’re basically flipping off the patriarchy and that will have widespread implications in terms of not only obviously women’s empowerment, but just the balance of the sexes, the balance of the masculine feminine, which then of course will lead to more beings conceived in love, trust, and lack of fear, right? I mean think of the implications of more babies being consciously conceived when they’re truly wanted and welcomed. Can you talk a little bit about your second conception?
Lauren: So my second conception, my partner and I had been together I think for like four years and like we were really wanting a baby and one day I was sitting by the river and I received a song for her, both my children I received a song for that I that I sang to them and when they were born and I sing it to them every night and so I received this song and I was feeling her spirit already and my partner was like, cook me a baby, why you don’t cook me a baby? And so we decided that we would and there’s a method called the shuttle’s method for choosing the gender of your child, which was important to us because I already have a daughter and we want to have three daughters. So we use this method to conceive our daughter as a daughter and we use my understanding of fertility to conceive her as a Leo, like me.
Yeah and it was just with like a lot of prayer, a lot of love, a lot of God, like making love to create a baby, like really special experience and as someone who’s walked alongside so many mothers through their childbearing continuum and been on my own journey of inner turmoil and fear and this huge process becoming a mother the first time, it’s just really night and day the grace you can receive for motherhood, for birth, for surrendering and opening and giving your full yes to this being when you get to make that choice.
There was so much grace for me with my first pregnancy but it was a deep process of integration and that’s okay, that’s what pregnancy and birth is. It’s a huge initiation and I’m so thankful for that fire but wow, what an incredible grace and like I said, I’ve been alongside other women who I watched for years get pregnant, not want it, give birth with resistance, have their child and have a resistance in them the whole time and almost a resentment not towards the child but towards like you know, I wasn’t consensual, they weren’t consenting and that’s a huge thing to have a child without your full consent.
You know, birth can be so beautiful when you can fully open to it and surrender and same with motherhood. If you can totally open and surrender to this thing and give yourself to it fully, it comes with a different grace than when you’re in resistance and tightness and fear and anger.
Marya: I want to insert something here because I think that this issue of consent is so obviously critical but that there’s so many variations and levels of not fully consenting that actually ironically, hormonal birth control plays a part in a culture of lack of consent even though you would think that it would lead to more consent because if a woman is on hormonal birth control and can’t get pregnant because of it, I believe and I think it was Lisa Hendricks and Jack that pointed this out in her book, The Fifth Vital Sign, it actually leads to a culture of entitlement of women’s bodies where the woman feels like, oh well, I can’t get pregnant so I guess I’ll go along with this or there might be levels of feeling like that she doesn’t really have a right to say no because there’s no real big implications and she doesn’t have to deeply consider whether the risk of having sex is worth it on a level that she would if she didn’t have birth control, right? Because it’s just like she’s on this thing in an ongoing way but with an actual cream where you apply it each time, you’re making a conscious choice not to, right? Or to do it if you want to and because you’re not just like on this thing non-stop, I think that it obviously would be different but that never really occurred to me even though I think it’s very true that hormonal birth control kind of leads to a greater sense of entitlement on the sense of men to just assume that the woman is available to have sex because there’s not these so-called negative side effects but meanwhile there might be a lot of gradations of not feeling fully on board on the part of the woman.
Yeah, it’s funny because it’s almost opposite. We think that this hormonal birth control is the key to women’s liberation in our culture that we’re so advanced and really it’s like making women sick, increasing risk of cancer, it shrinks your clitoris, it depletes the minerals that you need for cognitive function and all these things as you already know but so I just love the elegance of this solution that you’re providing. Yeah, I think this issue of consent is very multifaceted when we look at hormonal birth control.
Lauren: What you were talking about, the men feeling like they can just have sex with the woman and also the woman like I can’t get pregnant, it’s okay even if I don’t really want it, that is a much deeper issue of us not being taught by our mothers, by our older sisters to honor our womb and that all of our education around sexuality is from porn, the media, tv programming. This is why I really want to branch out into the teaching of sacred sexuality because I went through a duality of like guilt and shame from the church, knowing that somehow sex actually was a path to God and feeling like I should be promiscuous because this is like what’s expected of me almost and never taught like how to explore your sexuality in a way that honors you. I’m not against casual sex but I am against sex where you don’t feel your full yes and so many women are putting ourselves in that position all the time even with our husbands where we’re allowing ourselves to be entered before we’re fully ready and I’d really like to flip the script on this that our womb is such a sacred place that we honor her in every part of how we live, our moon, our sex, our birth control, our fertility, our birth, all of it and when we come into that relationship we learn to say like please let me tell you when I’m ready to be entered.
We learn that we should be both wet and engorged and really wanting it before we allow someone to enter our temple but as far as birth control and consent, I think the deeper issue and I already said it but we’re being given these pills without a word about the side effects and it’s giving a serious risk to our health. If you look to the comments on any birth control thread you see horror stories and it’s not just happening to people who smoke, it’s not just happening to people who are older or overweight. Young women are having blood clots in their lungs.
Marya: Lisa Hendricks said back in her book The Fifth Vital Sign she has a little fake warning sign like if birth control actually had an honest transparent explanation of the side effects like what that warning label would look like in the same way that when you buy a pack of cigarettes it has a warning label. It’s a little screenshot that I took from her book and all the way down to cancer. The point is in any medical procedure if you are not given fully informed consent it’s unethical.
Lauren: We’re seeing that the issues with birth control it’s not just that it affects emotional, spiritual, psychological consent between the couple but even on the level of how birth control is being prescribed there isn’t informed consent occurring. It is a class one carcinogen. That’s its classification and I certainly wasn’t told that and I don’t think you were either.
Another thing to do with this aspect of the patriarchy and the dynamic of what birth control is creating because I think this is very important. Now our society saw a shift under the guise of feminism that women should work and this way they can tax half the population and we took this because it was branded to us as an empowerment. Now women are told at a six-week checkup after giving birth that they’re safe for intercourse again and they’re put back on birth control.
Now birth control alters our brain. It literally makes us think in a more masculine paradigm. So as our brain is being altered women are then derailed biologically to be able to leave their six-week-old babies.
No mammal in the wild would do that. In fact they would kill someone who came to take them away from their six-month-old babies because without them they can die. Now we’re being chemically altered to be like okay with this and then we’re being labeled with postpartum depression.
Well isn’t that convenient another way to put us on depressants, antidepressants for possibly the rest of our life? Now so we’re on antidepressants, we’re on birth control, we’re denatured completely and we leave our new children and this is sold to us as empowerment. This is patriarchal bullshit. The new luxury is staying home with your children.
The new luxury is making a magical home and this is part of my fire in this revolution that this resource and this sharing of wisdom would create a way for women to be able to stay at home and be prosperous and have abundance and be back in their true essence because when we have millions of women coming back to their true essence the world will change. When we have women in their true essence with money and happy homes where our relationships with our partners are a sacred divine union and we’re making love in this sacred way that touches God, the whole world will change. The whole world will change and this all funnels into every part again of our womb, of our childbearing continuum, how we give birth as we connect with our nature, we have a relationship with our womb, we transcend fear.
The fear that’s been sold us about every aspect of who we are as women. We come into such giant fiery divine orgasmic empowerment that we are unstoppable and we all know that the heart and soul of women is to bring peace to this world, is to bring healing and that’s what will come. We can’t look at this issue without looking at one major environmental consideration that’s going on you guys.
Millions of women on these contraceptives are peeing hormones, synthetic hormones which don’t break down into the water every day. This is compiling and compiling and it is rendering humanity sterile. It is affecting gender expression.
I think we’ve all seen that loud and clear in these last years and it’s going to sterilize us over time. It’s denaturing our men so we no longer have these masculine men and it’s making us masculine women.
Marya: I don’t even want to interrupt you because you’re on such a role and it’s so poignant what you’re saying. You’re just speaking my mind and you’re like channeling I think for so many women right now. It’s so important to really divulge the implications of what a whole system shift could occur just with this one leverage point because obviously there’s more facets than just which birth control we use but that is the key leverage point which means that something this complex, the societal downstream effects and really fucked up things that are just rippling out from the negative form of birth control that we have right now, all of that could be shifted and changed. Obviously with consciousness and you know training and sacred sexuality and a whole cultural movement but that key leverage point, if you just change this one thing of access to non-toxic birth control, that’s the leverage point and the fact that you have that and you’re willing to share it on such a broad scale is just so beautiful because as you describe exactly all of the downstream effects because it’s one whole system, the pollution of the water supply and I also want to talk about the irony in this imbalance in the sexes under a patriarchy, the irony just continuing on what you were saying about how men are becoming you know being affected by these estrogens.
It’s ironic that in a culture that is male dominant and also like hierarchical and capitalistic and those are all kind of different versions of the same thing but that they are also actually at the same time kind of castrating the sacred protective masculine. You could actually say that hormonal birth control when you’re just looking at it through the lens of the way that it affects our minerals, if it lowers zinc which we need to make testosterone which you need for your sex drive so it’s basically suppressing women’s sex drive which we wouldn’t call that masculine or feminine but essentially suppressing our testosterone.
On some level we could say testosterone is associated more with the masculine, men have more testosterone so on the level of mineral effects it’s kind of suppressing the woman’s own assertiveness and over estrogenating her. I don’t even know if that’s a word but essentially it creates estrogen dominance. It creates all kinds of hormonal imbalances because it clogs your liver.
All of those estrogens and progestins in the hormonal birth control that overwhelms your liver and then you can’t process thyroid hormones properly. I just want to riff on that because I’m very passionate about revealing the shitty cascade that occurs to women. Okay, so she gets on hormonal birth control so-called to regulate her hormones even though it’s suppressing ovulation and this is done without fully informed consent and it’s just symptom management not getting at the root cause of like well why did you have bad periods? Or why did you have menstrual cramps? The pills are not even addressing anything relevant to the real root cause solution.
Then so she’s on hormonal birth control for 10 years or so then eventually she gets pregnant and becomes a mother, has a medicalized birth. This is what happened to me. Then she gets antibiotics and anesthesia both of which are fluorinated so they’re full of fluoride and so she’s already iodine deficient because of the standard American diet doesn’t contain sufficient iodine. The fluoride displaces the iodine so she’s now very prone to hypothyroidism which is also associated with estrogen dominance. So then after recovering from her overly medicalized birth then she’s depressed, especially if she ends up with a c-section which more and more women do. I mean more and more women are just choosing c-section just a planned c-section right?
So then she’s recovering from the mineral imbalances from the medications which causes depression and this is after years of birth control right. Then she gets on antidepressants which are also fluorinated. I’m not sure if you’re aware how much of my research has gone into the damaging effects of fluoride on women but again it’s this cascading effect of just like this downward spiral of cumulative impacts and then we wonder why women have hypothyroidism and depression and mood imbalances and then after you know years of that you know maybe she’s had a few c-sections by that point or you know she’s been on antidepressants for years.
Then her body is actually trying to go into menopause and some women are trying to go into menopause while they’re on the pill. So they’re already in chemically induced menopause. Their body is trying to accomplish menopause while in menopause and this is a whole other topic I could just rant on for so long about because all these factors are very conveniently stacked to feed into each other.
Oh now your hormones are so out of balance from all these mineral deficiencies as well as poisons like fluoride as well as I mean not to mention the breakdown of the village and the lack of support and all the ways that dysregulates us right. This is a really it’s amazing women are doing as well as they are considering, but now we have these horrible perimenopause symptoms that are being marketed as being like somehow just like that that’s what every woman has to go through and actually it’s not.
I talked to my mom and asked, did you have bad paramenopause symptoms? No she didn’t. Why? Because she was only on the birth control pill for like one year back in the 70s and I’ve since you know queried numerous older women and asked them did you have a hard time going through menopause or not and all of the ones that were on hardly any birth control say oh it wasn’t that big of a deal wasn’t that hard. Yet meanwhile we have this film The M Factor film that is again it’s being marketed as the social justice problem is that women don’t have access to hormone replacement therapy.
Meanwhile we’re completely ignoring the real social justice issue, and that’s what’s fucked up, is women are buying it and I don’t want to judge a woman who like truly does have horrible perimenopause symptoms because of the hormonal dysregulation from all of this you know years of hormonal birth control but the solution can’t be more of the same thinking right? I think the hormone replacement therapy industry you know the bioidentical hormones are I mean that’s something like a 50 billion dollar industry and now we have like naturopaths and stuff who are just like fully on board with this.
I mean where’s the end? They’re like you’re having a hard time with menopause we’ll give you a really expensive surgery just to take your womb out you don’t need your womb you don’t need your holy multi-dimensional portal of creation. That’s like the woman’s first brain we know that the the rates of dementia and the way the brain ages post menopause in women who have hysterectomies is worse you need you need your womb even if you’re not using it to make babies.
Lauren: Yeah it’s insanity and and at the core is the outsourcing of our power they’re saying yes we’ll take whatever the doctor gives us and then the doctor’s like we need to induce your birth and then we need to cut you we need to give you an epidural which has fentanyl in it which goes to your baby we need to inject you and your baby with all these things, and and as long as we are in fear we’re looking at the man or the woman in the white coat saying okay okay you know like they’re gonna keep me safe.
What if we found deep safety in ourselves and our sisters and in true wisdom that women have always had? We have been stripped of you know what’s actually still really here and present for us which is the understanding of our nature the connection with our body and the the knowledge that we need of the natural tools we have.
Marya: I think if women knew about the history of birth control they’d wake up, because I do think the sociology matters, like for example that the birth control pill was developed by experimenting on female prisoners against their consent. Do I want to have anything to do with something that’s supposedly liberating, but you can tell it’s not liberating if that’s how they developed it? How could it be liberating if you know it’s just like the whole history of gynecology where they were experimenting on black slaves and stuff?
Lauren: Yeah so the the birth control pill was experimented in Puerto Rico on marginalized women who had horrific side effects and many died and they still passed it and yet the FDA is fighting an all-natural cream that’s been shown to be highly effective like more effective than these pills without the side effects it’s insanity and we have to look at how is it developed? The same thing with gynecology. We’ve been told like get a pap smear every year no sister this is harmful they’re causing harm to your cervix that may create more harm and we’re told this is how to stay safe. We’re told condoms stay safe. The brainwash on this is huge stay safe stay safe use condoms. Meanwhile condoms have class one carcinogens in them that are released inside of us through exposure to heat and bodily fluid and I was always using one with the spermicide because I thought I would stay safer and these actually make us more predisposed to contracting STDs which we’re trying to avoid with a condom, because they irritate the tissues through a very toxic chemical called non-oxal 9 present in all conventional spermicide.
Marya: All right well so Lauren and I are both mothers and we’ve got some maternal duties calling us and we know that we could just talk on this topic forever so maybe if there’s anything else to explore we might do another episode but I think since this is almost two hours this will have to be two episodes um but Lauren your your wisdom and passion and inspiration and knowledge and um the scope of your vision is just so inspiring I feel like I’ve been like waiting my whole life to know that there’s an answer like this out there and it’s just so consoling to me um to know that we can we can actually shift this culture away from one of like you’re saying medical violence towards um true sovereignty true womb sovereignty and I’m just so so happy to be alive in this time to be able to witness some of the unfolding of like what how much more of a beautiful and ecstatic and joyful and pleasurable world that we’re going to create having tools like this. So thank you for all of your efforts and activism in this area and I just want to end this call by asking you a little bit more to talk just a little bit more about the training that you’re offering because you’ve shared this kind of scope of vision that you have.
So how can people plug into this revolution that you’ve created and what’s the format for them to not only get the product but participate in shifting our culture in all these beautiful ways.
Lauren: Yeah if people feel a call you know inside them to become part of this mission we have really awesome ways to partner with us. I have an upcoming training to become a Wise Woman’s Choice Wisdom Carrier – carrying not only all of my teachings around natural birth control including fertility awareness and how to practice it in real life, but all the herbal tools all the natural tools all the masculine empowerment all the relationship dynamics that come along with a true empowerment around your fertility and along with this we’re going to be going into how to create community and how to hold women’s circles and how to be a part of creating this movement that’s not just about fertility but it’s about sisterhood it’s about healing.
And so from there we’ll go on and and release more and more wisdom teachings but we’re starting off sharing this one and pray that it would be spread far and wide. we also have opportunities if you feel called to make the cream or if you have other artisanal soap makers or natural product makers that would love to have this as another one of their products and bring it to their communities in their world. We also share our company generously with our affiliates and have beautiful opportunities for people who want to share it everywhere internationally.
Marya: So what do you recommend for someone who would be wanting to share it within the u.s like myself? Because i definitely am on board, but is there any difference in regulations for someone who’s trying to sell it within the US as compared to having it shipped from Costa Rica? Are there any challenges I should be aware of around that.
Lauren: I mean, if you’re selling it person to person it shouldn’t be an issue. If you’re putting it in shops then we would need to talk about it more thoroughly as far as the language okay.
Marya: We’ll talk about that and anyone interested in participating and joining in can talk directly with Lauren about that i’ll be putting my contact info and her website in the show notes.
I will also share a link to a course that i have if you are someone who is on hormonal birth control I have a little mini course that’s all about um which minerals to take understanding which minerals hormonal birth control depletes and which minerals to take to balance that, but as you all know i’m not a fan of or a promoter of hormonal birth control and here’s this other alternative which i’m so grateful i’m going to be mentioning it in the course.
I’ll also be sharing a link to um an article that i wrote on the social justice issues around hormonal birth control and I will just say that some of the women that I work with who have the worst migraines had this injection or were on the pill for long term so I can definitely say that I believe that women’s hypothyroidism and migraine are very very directly related to these poisonous forms of hormonal birth control and I understand a lot of women don’t like being on it but like they don’t know what the alternative is so the beauty is that we have an alternative now and you know it’s it’s at the stage that it’s at in terms of gathering more data because your company is you know only a few years old.
Lauren is is actually also trying to raise funds as well for clinical trials and this is the stage that she’s at, but if you if you know a philanthropist who would be passionate about this project or anyone who has a lot of money who cares about women’s health and wants to invest in clinical trials reach out to Lauren. I’ll share all the information below and also where to follow her on Instagram.
This has been such a pleasure talking about this Lauren! Thanks for all your time. Any closing words that you have?
Lauren: Thank you so much it’s so awesome to connect and share about this and and be with someone who gets it.
Marya: Yeah i’m ready for this revolution. This is long overdue so let’s do this sisters. I think you called it the holy grail of birth control, so the power is ours to take back. Let’s do this. Thanks for listening to the podcast. Thanks for visiting lauren and we’ll be in touch, and of course any of you who find this message inspiring, because it’s obviously relevant for like a lot of people men and women included, please just spread the word about this podcast and share the link thanks for listening
Please check out Lauren’s website, where you can purchase Wise Woman’s Choice.
Also, check out my blog post that I created on migraine and birth control as a women’s social justice issue where I talk a little bit more about some of the nutrient deficiencies caused by birth control and the copper IUD.
Here is a link to my little mini course, Nutritional Support for Women on Hormonal Birth Control and the Copper IUD. This can be shared with anyone, whether they have migraines or not – anyone who is considering hormonal birth control or looking for to understand better which minerals to take to counterbalance the depletions that birth control causes.
And of course, in that little mini course, now I can offer a true alternative with the hopes that women will actually not have to understand those mineral dynamics and not have to take supplements to counterbalance, but rather can simply just choose a non-toxic method if this seems appealing to them that will not cause any mineral depletions or deficiencies.
Thanks for listening.
